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Compare the2023 Toyota Rav4VS 2023 Subaru Forester

2023 Toyota Rav4
2023 Subaru Forester

Safety

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The Rav4 has a standard Secondary Collision Brake, which automatically applies the brakes in the event of a crash to help prevent secondary collisions and prevent further injuries. The Forester doesn’t offer a post collision braking system: in the event of a collision that triggers the airbags, more collisions are possible without the protection of airbags that may have already deployed.

The Rav4 Limited/TRD Off-Road offers an optional Bird’s Eye View Camera to allow the driver to see objects all around the vehicle on a screen. The Forester only offers a rear monitor and front and rear parking sensors that beep or flash a light. That doesn’t help with obstacles to the sides.

Both the Rav4 and the Forester have standard driver and passenger frontal airbags, front side-impact airbags, driver knee airbags, side-impact head airbags, front and rear seatbelt pretensioners, height adjustable front shoulder belts, four-wheel antilock brakes, traction control, electronic stability systems to prevent skidding, crash mitigating brakes, daytime running lights, lane departure warning systems, rearview cameras, available all wheel drive, blind spot warning systems and rear cross-path warning.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration does 35 MPH front crash tests on new vehicles. In this test, results indicate that the Toyota Rav4 is safer than the Subaru Forester:

Rav4

Forester

Passenger

STARS

5 Stars

5 Stars

HIC

284

293

Chest Compression

.4 inches

.7 inches

Neck Compression

95 lbs.

103 lbs.

New test not comparable to pre-2011 test results. More stars = Better. Lower test results = Better.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration does side impact tests on new vehicles. In this test, which crashes the vehicle into a flat barrier at 38.5 MPH and into a post at 20 MPH, results indicate that the Toyota Rav4 is safer than the Subaru Forester:

Rav4

Forester

Front Seat

STARS

5 Stars

5 Stars

Chest Movement

.5 inches

.6 inches

Hip Force

246 lbs.

389 lbs.

Rear Seat

STARS

5 Stars

5 Stars

HIC

146

246

Spine Acceleration

49 G’s

56 G’s

Hip Force

508 lbs.

670 lbs.

Into Pole

STARS

5 Stars

5 Stars

Max Damage Depth

14 inches

16 inches

Spine Acceleration

36 G’s

40 G’s

New test not comparable to pre-2011 test results. More stars = Better. Lower test results = Better.

Side impacts caused 23% of all road fatalities in 2018, down from 29% in 2003, when the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety introduced its side barrier test. In order to continue improving vehicle safety, the IIHS has started using a more severe side impact test: 37 MPH (up from 31 MPH), with a 4180-pound barrier (up from 3300 pounds). The results of this newly developed test demonstrates that the Toyota Rav4 is safer than the Forester:

Rav4

Forester

Overall Evaluation

ACCEPTABLE

ACCEPTABLE

Structure

GOOD

ACCEPTABLE

Driver Injury Measures

Head/Neck

GOOD

GOOD

Neck Tension

134 lbs.

223 lbs.

Torso

GOOD

ACCEPTABLE

Shoulder Deflection

.47 in

.91 in

Shoulder Force

178 lbs.

201 lbs.

Torso Max Deflection

1.34 in

1.5 in

Torso Deflection Rate

7 MPH

8 MPH

Pelvis

ACCEPTABLE

ACCEPTABLE

Head Protection

GOOD

GOOD

Passenger Injury Measures

Head/Neck

GOOD

GOOD

Head Injury Criterion

542

544

Neck Compression

223 lbs.

290 lbs.

Torso

GOOD

GOOD

Shoulder Deflection

.94 in

2.2 in

Shoulder Force

290 lbs.

469 lbs.

Torso Max Deflection

.83 in

1.26 in

Torso Deflection Rate

8 MPH

8 MPH

Pelvis

GOOD

GOOD

Warranty

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Toyota pays for scheduled maintenance on the Rav4 for 2 years and 25000 miles. Toyota will pay for oil changes, lubrication and any other required maintenance. Subaru doesn’t pay scheduled maintenance for the Forester.

There are almost 2 times as many Toyota dealers as there are Subaru dealers, which makes it much easier should you ever need service under the Rav4’s warranty.

Reliability

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J.D. Power and Associates’ 2022 Initial Quality Study of new car owners surveyed provide the statistics that show that Toyota vehicles are better in initial quality than Subaru vehicles. J.D. Power ranks Toyota above average in initial quality. With 19 more problems per 100 vehicles, Subaru is rated below average.

J.D. Power and Associates’ 2022 survey of the owners of three-year-old vehicles provides the long-term dependability statistics that show that Toyota vehicles are more reliable than Subaru vehicles. J.D. Power ranks Toyota above average in long-term dependability. With 34 more problems per 100 vehicles in the first three years of ownership, Subaru is rated below average.

From surveys of all its subscribers, Consumer Reports’ January 2023 Auto Issue reports that Toyota vehicles are more reliable than Subaru vehicles. Consumer Reports ranks Toyota first in overall reliability. Subaru is ranked 7th.

Engine

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The Rav4’s 2.5 DOHC 4-cylinder produces 21 more horsepower (203 vs. 182) and 8 lbs.-ft. more torque (184 vs. 176) than the Forester’s 2.5 DOHC 4-cylinder.

As tested in Motor Trend the Toyota Rav4 is faster than the Subaru Forester:

Rav4

Forester

Zero to 30 MPH

2.8 sec

3.7 sec

Zero to 60 MPH

8 sec

9.6 sec

Zero to 80 MPH

13.5 sec

15.5 sec

Passing 45 to 65 MPH

4.2 sec

4.4 sec

Quarter Mile

16.2 sec

17.3 sec

Speed in 1/4 Mile

87.6 MPH

82.3 MPH

Fuel Economy and Range

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On the EPA test cycle the Rav4 gets better mileage than the Forester:

MPG

Rav4

FWD

XLE 2.5 DOHC 4-cyl.

27 city/34 hwy

LE/Limited 2.5 DOHC 4-cyl.

27 city/35 hwy

AWD

LE 2.5 DOHC 4-cyl.

27 city/34 hwy

XLE 2.5 DOHC 4-cyl.

27 city/33 hwy

Adventure/Limited 2.5 DOHC 4-cyl.

25 city/33 hwy

TRD Off-Road 2.5 DOHC 4-cyl.

25 city/32 hwy

Forester

AWD

2.5 DOHC flat-4

26 city/33 hwy

Wilderness 2.5 DOHC flat-4

25 city/28 hwy

Brakes and Stopping

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For better stopping power the Rav4’s standard front brake rotors are larger than those on the Forester:

Rav4

Forester

Front Rotors

12 inches

11.6 inches

The Rav4 stops much shorter than the Forester:

Rav4

Forester

70 to 0 MPH

161 feet

181 feet

Car and Driver

60 to 0 MPH

120 feet

129 feet

Motor Trend

Tires and Wheels

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For better traction, the Rav4 XLE Premium/Adventure/Limited’s tires are larger than the largest tires available on the Forester (235/55R19 vs. 225/60R17).

For better ride, handling and brake cooling the Rav4 XLE Premium/Adventure/Limited has standard 19-inch wheels. The Forester’s largest wheels are only 18-inches.

Suspension and Handling

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For better handling and stability, the average track (width between the wheels) on the Rav4 is 1.2 inches wider in the front and 1.8 inches wider in the rear than the average track on the Forester.

The Rav4 Adventure handles at .84 G’s, while the Forester Wilderness pulls only .77 G’s of cornering force in a Car and Driver skidpad test.

The Rav4 Adventure executes Motor Trend’s “Figure Eight” maneuver quicker than the Forester Touring (27.5 seconds @ .62 average G’s vs. 28.1 seconds @ .6 average G’s).

Chassis

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As tested by Car and Driver while at idle, the interior of the Rav4 Limited 4WD is quieter than the Forester Limited (38 vs. 41 dB).

Cargo Capacity

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The Rav4 has a much larger cargo volume than the Forester with its rear seat up (37.6 vs. 28.9 cubic feet).

The Rav4’s cargo area is larger than the Forester’s in almost every dimension:

Rav4

Forester

Length to seat (2nd/1st)

40”/73.4”

35.7”/73.1”

Max Width

59”

51.5”

Min Width

39.4”

43.3”

Height

36.6”

34.8”

To make loading groceries and cargo easier when your hands are full, the Rav4 Limited’s available liftgate can be opened and closed just by kicking your foot under the back bumper, leaving your hands completely free. The Forester doesn’t offer a hands-free gesture to open its liftgate, forcing you to put cargo down if your hands are full.

Towing

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Maximum trailer towing in the Subaru Forester is limited to 3000 pounds. The Rav4 4WD offers up to a 3500 lbs. towing capacity.

Ergonomics

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The power windows standard on both the Rav4 and the Forester have locks to prevent small children from operating them. When the lock on the Rav4 is engaged the driver can still operate all of the windows, for instance to close one opened by a child. The Forester prevents the driver from operating the other windows just as it does the other passengers.

The Rav4’s front and rear power windows all open or close fully with one touch of the switches, making it more convenient at drive-up windows and toll booths, or when talking with someone outside the car. The Forester’s standard passenger windows don’t open or close automatically. With the Forester Premium/Sport/Wilderness/Limited/Touring’s power windows, only the front windows open or close automatically.

If the windows are left open on the Rav4 the driver can close them all at the outside door handle. On a hot day the driver can lower the windows at the outside door handle or from a distance using the keyless remote. (This window function must be activated by your Toyota service department.) The driver of the Forester can only operate the windows from inside the vehicle, with the ignition on.

The Rav4 XLE/Adventure/Limited/TRD Off-Road’s optional wipers adjust their speed and turn on and off automatically according to the amount of rainfall on the windshield. The Forester’s manually variable intermittent wipers have to be constantly adjusted.

Optional air-conditioned seats in the Rav4 (except LE/XLE/Adventure) keep the driver and front passenger comfortable and take the sting out of hot seats in Summer. The Forester doesn’t offer air-conditioned seats.

To quickly and conveniently keep personal devices charged without cables tangling and wearing out, the Toyota Rav4 XLE Premium/Limited/TRD Off-Road offers an optional wireless phone charging system (Qi) in the center console. The Forester doesn’t offer wireless personal charging.

The Rav4 Adventure/TRD Off-Road has a 115-volt a/c outlet in the cargo area, allowing you to recharge a laptop or run small household appliances without special adapters that can break or get misplaced. The Forester doesn’t offer a house-current electrical outlet.

Model Availability

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The Rav4 is available in both front-wheel drive and four-wheel drive configurations. The Forester doesn’t offer a two-wheel drive configuration.

Economic Advantages

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According to The Car Book by Jack Gillis, the Rav4 is less expensive to operate than the Forester because it costs $63 less to do the manufacturer’s suggested maintenance for 50,000 miles. Typical repairs cost much less on the Rav4 than the Forester, including $140 less for a water pump, $110 less for a muffler, $79 less for a starter, $253 less for fuel injection and $216 less for front struts.

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Car and Driver performed a comparison test in its May 2020 issue and they ranked the Toyota Rav4 Limited 4WD higher than the Subaru Forester Limited.

The Toyota Rav4 outsold the Subaru Forester by almost four to one during 2022.